campylobacter: In most cultures, wanking is not done in public. (wank)
campylobacter ([personal profile] campylobacter) wrote2011-06-07 12:48 am
Entry tags:

STARGATE: Memories, feelings, entitlement...

"Beau reminded me a lot of Robert Picardo (Richard Woolsey) – both were very successful, incredibly experienced, and always made it a point to come by our offices to run prospective dialogue changes by us rather than simply surprising us in the dailies. Like Bob, Beau would always make the time to come up and see us to request even the tiniest of changes. Both of them were class acts and I have nothing but terrific memories of working with them." -- Joe Mallozzi 5 June 2011
Beau Bridges & Robert Picardo are AWESOME. Mad props & nothing but love love love to them and what they brought to the franchise.

LOL at "surprising us" with dialog changes in the dailies. Someone's using the Royal We.
Demotivational LOLCat: orange tabby with ears back and mouth wide open, next to enema kit, caption Special Delivery for Capt Butthurt

[identity profile] magnavox-23.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
I used to channel Weir in my business class too! :D I was always chosen to be the leader. The problem with the Boys at Bridge is that they could not see how strong and central to the show she was. She was the backbone of the show as it was more ensemble than SG-1, who were older and experienced enough to hold their own.

That is such an interesting idea, hiring a woman to replace Daniel. It probably was never considered, knowing TPTB, but again they were probably trying not to go too far from the Daniel archetype so as to upset the boat as little as possible.

My love for this show was fueled by the actors, the stories (for the most part) and the possibilities. Yes there is a lot of nasty stuff that went on behind the scenes with Mallozzi's run ins with Shanks & Torri and Cooper's homophobic comments, blatant sexism and a few things in the series that could have been handled more sensitively (Daniel's rape, Lucius etc), but please don't let their shitty behaviour take away from your enjoyment of the show and the wondrous fandom is has bought about.
ext_391411: There is a god sitting here with wet fingers. (geek-sexy)

[identity profile] campylobacter.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm toward the end of SGA's S2 in my first-time watch, and I love watching the way Weir evolves as a leader. Seeing her grapple with going DARKSIDE by authorizing torture for interrogation & medical experimentation on a Wraith makes me love her more -- not because I approve of her decisions, but because it makes her less of a paragon and more of a conflicted, rounded character.

The aftershocks of wank from the wankiest Shanks fangirls during SG-1's S6 are apparent even to a latecomer like me. There'd be wank regardless of whether they cast Nemec or a woman.

I wish that BW's shitty mishandling of SGU hadn't driven the franchise into the ground. :( If he'd've allowed the writers & crew to do what they excel at (self-deprecating humor, flexibility between drama/comedy/action/angst, and accessible characters) we'd have a 3rd season of SGU and the possibility of SGA & more SG-1 movies.

[identity profile] magnavox-23.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
Seeing her grapple with going DARKSIDE by authorizing torture for interrogation & medical experimentation on a Wraith makes me love her more -- not because I approve of her decisions, but because it makes her less of a paragon and more of a conflicted, rounded character.

Exactly this! She was perfectly imperfect. She made us question what a normal person - no military training, no higher agenda or influence, what they would do if put in that situation. The idea of putting a woman who ran negotiations and treaties, anti-gun, anti-war in a position where she could not avoid those things, and was in charge of people whom she had to order to carry out thus, it was fascinating stuff.

As for SGU, I was watching the press conference from Fedcon today and RDA was mentioning how SGU was simply not compatible with the rest of the franchise and viewership suffered for it. Couldn't agree more. Of course there were other factors such as the leaked casting calls from season one and the axing of SGA didn't help either.
ext_391411: There is a god sitting here with wet fingers. (facepalm)

[identity profile] campylobacter.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
(I meant to type that I *don't* approve of Weir's decisions regarding torture & live subject experimentation but that it doesn't diminish my love for the character in the least.) So yes, her imperfections make her an intriguing and powerful character.

RDA was mentioning how SGU was simply not compatible with the rest of the franchise

That statement carries a lot of cred, given that RDA built the Stargate franchise from the get-go and nurtured it from its uncertain early seasons. I guess BW & Co. got cocky the more successful the franchise became.
ext_3980: (nuts)

[identity profile] carlinjona.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Casting a woman to replace Daniel... hmm, that could have worked. Jonas was doomed from the get go: they introduced him in Meridian, thus reducing the attention given to Daniel, they made him a carbon copy of Daniel (albeit one where the carbon paper was worn very thin), and BW talked him up so much, telling us we'd love him and he was so hunky, as if we'd never know the difference. All that piled on top of the appalling treatment given to Shanks, yeah, Nemec never had a chance.

So, who would this woman have been? Archaeologist, anthropologist, specialist in something else?
ext_391411: There is a god sitting here with wet fingers. (Qetesh)

[identity profile] campylobacter.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
UGH. Brad Effing Wright. I give him props for doing some things well -- very well -- but the nauseating way he caved to network pressure to deliver & tout a near-Daniel replacement while KNOWING that it compromised the integrity of BOTH characters is pretty sleazy. Daniel & Jonas deserved much, much better treatment.

As for filling Daniel's spot on SG-1 with a woman, how about a quantum-mirror Shau'ri played by Mili Avital? She wouldn't've had to refuse the role because there'd be no requirement of nudity!

Or perhaps Barbara Shore, the archaeologist from the 1994 movie? That would add a Woman of a Certain Age to the team, which would be quite interesting.

Or maybe a timey-wimey younger version of Catherine Langford? bwahahaha!
ext_3980: (translation)

[identity profile] carlinjona.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Lucius? Who he? My memory is failing!

Totally agree with the lack of sensitive handling of Daniel's rape, getting locked up in the mental asylum, having to share his last episode with his cruddy replacement... etc.

[identity profile] magnavox-23.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Lucius was the guy played by Richard Kind on SGA who drugged the many wives he had so they'd marry & have sex with him...