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campylobacter ([personal profile] campylobacter) wrote2012-06-24 02:57 am

Samantha Carter: Mary Sue or Role Model?

In the same mimetic vein as the entry posted by fanfic author & friend [livejournal.com profile] lolmac Looking for Daniel in all the right places wherein she asks for advice from "ardent Jacksonians" about how to write Daniel, and what's good or bad in the way he's depicted in canon & in fanfic, I'm asking the Samantha-stans, Carter-istas, Sam-fanatics & Stargate fans on my F-List (anons, too!):

How do you write Sam Carter in character?

I've been STUCK on TWO fan fiction stories in which I can't resist writing from this amazing military astrophysicist's PoV, but am having major anxiety that I might get her wrong.
  1. What is it about Sam that you love?
  2. What makes you squee?
  3. What do you most love to see her do?
  4. What are the elements of a Sam story that you love the most?
  5. What do you really like seeing her do in fic? On the show? Both?
  6. What is the most epic of Sam WIN?
  7. What annoys and pisses you off when you see it in fan fiction?
  8. What are the stupid/shallow/careless misinterpretations of Sam that must be avoided?
  9. What qualifies as Sam!Fail?
  10. Any other pointers, tips, criticisms, & pet peeves also welcome!

RELATED: Meta: The Evolution of Samantha Carter (or Why I Love Sam) by [livejournal.com profile] rachel500
http://rachel500.livejournal.com/165064.html
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Re: Sam Carter: Talk nerdy to me!

[identity profile] campylobacter.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
I confess to feeling like I'm missing backstory when Sam demonstrates expertise in medicine or biochemistry in canon, but then I chalk it up to her spending a LOT of time at Janet's place, reading Dr. Fraiser's medical journals after they've had sexyteimz. ;)

Sam Carter, afraid of a spider? Maybe a HUGE HONKING SHELOB LotR CROSSOVER MONSTER, but an itsy bitsy spider?????

(I cracked up when I first heard about Virgin!Sam fic. LOLWUT.)

Re: Sam Carter: Talk nerdy to me!

[identity profile] cleothemuse.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
About as ridiculous as Virgin!Daniel fic... I can SORT OF understand Daniel never having gotten it on with a guy, but there's no way Sarah didn't drag him off to bed to pry him away from his work, and then there's Sha're and Hathor and maybe Shyla and/or Kera and possibly Sam and/or Janet (friends with benefits, ya know) and then Vala and who knows who all else.

But really?! Even if not the fact that Jonas Hansen was probably into some kinky games, and she and Daniel and/or Janet likely got together for some stress relief, and she and Teal'c banged while Jack was missing in "Paradise Lost" (if not sooner), and...

ANYONE with half a brain could see the way Sam was with Pete in "Chimera" and INSTANTLY know this is a woman who is sexually confident.

ETA: Also, while it's possible Daniel was generally clueless enough to have not been sleeping around with other guys before the SGC, CAM is far too gregarious to have not been adventurous in his youth XD
Edited 2012-06-24 03:57 (UTC)
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Virgin!Sam #WTF

[identity profile] campylobacter.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
I can totally picture Jonas Hanson getting progressively kinkier & creepier, to the point where Sam wasn't comfortable with being the sub to his Dom, and breaking their engagement as his sexual douchery overlapped into other areas of their relationship.

In my fanon, Sam lost her V-card as a teenager during a rebellious phase. Because by the time she was "touched" in Broca Divide, the sex-tigress who attacked Jack in the locker room KNEW HER MOVES. And Jack was sorely tempted. Hell, if I were in Jack's place, I'd've done her & claimed later that I was "touched" too.

PS: Daniel totally did threesomes with Stephen & Sarah in grad school.

PPS: Sam's Doe Eyes never fail to make me melt. DOE EYES 4EVA

Re: Virgin!Sam #WTF

[identity profile] cleothemuse.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, Touched!Sam definitely knew what she wanted AND how (and Jack was closer or she'd probably have had her wicked way with Daniel or had a grand ol' time with Teal'c.)

Stephen was a bit of schmuck... Sarah might've been two-timing Daniel with him, but otherwise...

Doe Eyes have their place... aimed at Jack when his countering expression is that of a man having recently eaten a pint of prunes? *sigh* Can't say Amanda didn't make the best of a crummy hand...
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[identity profile] campylobacter.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, Touched!Sam/Teal'c or Daniel. Or Gen. Hammond. >_<

As for Prune-faced Jack/Doe-eyed Sam... I've seen Jack give Daniel that same "pruney" look, and Sam turn the Doe Eyes on Teal'c, too. IT'S TRUE orgy LOVE.

College is usually a time when you do things you regret later... including Stephen the schmuck. GradSchool!Daniel would've done him after toking pot.

[identity profile] cleothemuse.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Daniel might've Topped Stephen and Stephen forever resented it was never the other way around.

[identity profile] cleothemuse.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Also can't remember pruney!face Jack toward Daniel... a dorky "what? no, I wasn't trying to sneak into the cookie jar" sort of face, but not the outright discomfort he sometimes--but not always--got in the face of the DEOD.

Re: Sam Carter: Talk nerdy to me!

[identity profile] magnavox-23.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Promise I will fill this in when I am more awake, just wanted to mention Sam's line to Merrin in Learning Curve about the fun/cool stuff she did in her life not happening until she was 15, and then Merrin asks what stuff and Sam's all "Just... stuff", which I took to mean Sam was at least experimenting sexually quite young perhaps in rebellion to her military father yadda yadda *yawn* totes not a virgin. :P
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Re: Sam Carter: Talk nerdy to me!

[identity profile] campylobacter.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
OH YEAH. "Half the interesting things in my life didn't happen until I turned 15." Such as smoking her first cigarette, drinking her first beer, making out with another girl, and having sex with a high school senior (or college boy)... Which explains why she's almost "squeaky clean" as an adult.

Re: Sam Carter: Talk nerdy to me!

[identity profile] madders-ahatter.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
My thoughts exactly! That convo with Merrin was a dead giveaway!
Edited 2012-06-24 11:45 (UTC)

Re: Sam Carter: Talk nerdy to me!

[identity profile] madders-ahatter.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
My head-canon for Sam's medical expertise is that following early episode - erm mission - whumpage, and Daniel having to play midwife, Jack ordered Sam to take some training courses so that they'd have a 'mini-medic' on team. Being the super-bright scholar that she is, Sam wouldn't be content with superficial knowledge. She'd bone up on each topic until she felt confident she had it sewn up [puns fully intended]