META: Character Bashing Gives Me Rage
Jun. 5th, 2010 10:23 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
campylobacterWednesday was a long day at work; I was finally at home, decompressing, reading some hot Daniel/Vala smut... and then after leaving a review, I got the notion to try something new: a Daniel/Sam story.
Because I don't 'ship Daniel & Sam, I wanted to gain insight into their relationship dynamic from another segment of the Stargate fandom. What is it about their interaction that I might be missing? Because when I see MS & AT in scenes together, their body language is the same as my body language around my brother. Have I been projecting my perceptions as an older sister onto Sam's character? I wanted to see if the Daniel/Sam fandom handily destroys the fanon of Sam & Daniel as "just like brother & sister".
And now I'm pissed: there's Vala-bashing in the Sam/Daniel story.
Hello? "True Vala fashion" would be for Vala to ask if she could join them in a threesome. Vala doesn't think of Sam as a "harlot"; in fact, she respects Sam's authority as a leader (see "The Uninvited") and spends time shopping and drinking with her ("Family Ties").
Why does an author need to bash a character for the sake of focusing on their fave OTP? WTF???!!!!
I don't bash Daniel/Sam in my stories, or any other pairing. In fact, as a multi-shipper, I toss in innuendo for other pairings (Jack/Daniel & Sam/Vala being a couple favorites) because it gives the characterizations more energy and dynamism, and acknowledges the depth of their previous history together.
Anyone have any Sam/Daniel fanfic recs that don't have character bashing? Maybe there should be warnings on 'shipper fics if there's character bashing... LOL. "Sam/Vala antipathy" or something. Because it ruined my evening.
Because I don't 'ship Daniel & Sam, I wanted to gain insight into their relationship dynamic from another segment of the Stargate fandom. What is it about their interaction that I might be missing? Because when I see MS & AT in scenes together, their body language is the same as my body language around my brother. Have I been projecting my perceptions as an older sister onto Sam's character? I wanted to see if the Daniel/Sam fandom handily destroys the fanon of Sam & Daniel as "just like brother & sister".
And now I'm pissed: there's Vala-bashing in the Sam/Daniel story.
Vala [....] could tell that something was up. It didn’t take her long to notice the furtive glances. The close proximity. Even the occasional drifting hand under the commissary tables. At first she was angry. This blonde harlot stole HER Daniel away. But as she watched them, she knew that Daniel was never really hers. And in true Vala fashion, she turned her sights to someone else.
Hello? "True Vala fashion" would be for Vala to ask if she could join them in a threesome. Vala doesn't think of Sam as a "harlot"; in fact, she respects Sam's authority as a leader (see "The Uninvited") and spends time shopping and drinking with her ("Family Ties").
Why does an author need to bash a character for the sake of focusing on their fave OTP? WTF???!!!!
I don't bash Daniel/Sam in my stories, or any other pairing. In fact, as a multi-shipper, I toss in innuendo for other pairings (Jack/Daniel & Sam/Vala being a couple favorites) because it gives the characterizations more energy and dynamism, and acknowledges the depth of their previous history together.
Anyone have any Sam/Daniel fanfic recs that don't have character bashing? Maybe there should be warnings on 'shipper fics if there's character bashing... LOL. "Sam/Vala antipathy" or something. Because it ruined my evening.
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Date: 2010-07-05 05:35 pm (UTC)I hope I didnt cause offense in the last post, it's just the way I saw it come across in that particular virtual episode. It's a pet peeve of mine. It was just they Made Daniel out to be too afraid to do stuff.
(I may have got my translation wrong, but I didnt mean wimpey in the physical sense but in the mental sense.. like wimping out on something for instance, hope that makes sense?
Used sense alot there eh? )
Which to me is not right. But I guess you are right, it was to make the Vala / Cam pairing more plausable?? pfft.
But hey, some excellent links here so will be busy tonight reading the recs!
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Date: 2010-07-05 09:22 pm (UTC)Yes, Daniel has flaws and Issues. But so do Vala, Teal'c, Sam, Jack, Cam! It's what makes them more real and wonderful and worth caring about. I'd probably hate them if they were perfect.
I could also justify a Vala/Cam pairing quite easily: Vala gets tired of Daniel's constant rejections, and Cam's there to console her. Easy peasy. No need to even break Daniel/Cam slash goggles, or shut the door on an eventual Daniel/Vala pairing.
I have so much fanfic reading & commenting to catch up on, it's daunting.
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Date: 2010-07-06 12:41 pm (UTC)I could see Cam / Vala too, but I just choose not too ;)
Talking of Fanfic and how much you have to catch up on, at the mo I have lets see, 15 waiting to be read. What I do is have a dig around for the older fics and re read them. As well as the brand new ones.
I have a few hours each evening after my daughter goes to bed to catch up on stuff. but it doesn't include tv catch up too...
We need more hours in the day.